exROVER says (26 Aug 2009)

this is so lame, why would anyone skate with valo's with out the shell? it's more retarded than doing that to a pair of remz. just skate the M12's if u like that look. you just wasting money on a pair of valo's when u can get the m12's for way less money.

halcyon says (27 Aug 2009)

Ok. First of all my conclusion jumping friend. He didn't say he got the valos and decided to take the skins of. He just stated that he took them off because of flexibility. 2. When the skin gets ruined u can take them off and it'd be like having a new pair of skates. 3. The although the same manufacturer makes roces and valo. The valo boot is made a little wider.... this isn't a recent development either. This has been going on for sometime throughout the industry. Other skate companies having subsidiary companies. USD= Deshi. Zamora and Spizer got help from them to make Deshi. Razor=Remz. Why do u think the cuffs are interchangable? Razor=Nimh. Shim and Elliot got help from razors. Take the skin of and its a cult with the toe missing. Roces=Valo.... even the companies are on a scratch my back basis. Why do u think Remz and Razors always come stock with Jug and Ground Control? And USD & Deshi always come stock with Sifika and Kizer (unless pro skate)

DerRoose says (31 Aug 2009)

Money is no aspect. I got this skate as a second-hand skate. Because of that I decided to make an experiment with this skate because I had the feeling, that the skin made this skate more unfexible. Also without the skin the skate looks much smarter.

Patrick94 says (06 Mar 2012)

without the skin the skate looks gay and shitty, Not smart !!!!!!

Bradderrs says (08 Apr 2012)

Get some m12 soul plates too, makes all the difference. Fuck the haters, skate what you want.